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God is busy, may I help you? / Dieu est occupé, puis-je vous aider?

You can leave me a message in English or French, at the bottom. Click here. Yann 22:13, 30 Apr 2005 (UTC)

File:T2 (Tele2) logo 2024.svg

Colleague @Yann: I am the author of the upload of this image and I want to delete it due to an error when checking the file for validity. After deleting, I will upload it with the correct code under the same name. I don't see any obstacles. — ArtSmir (talk) 13:23, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@ArtSmir: It doesn't work that way. If the file is in use, it won't be deleted. Yann (talk) 13:45, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Yann: That is, it all comes down to the fact that this file is used in 6 articles? — ArtSmir (talk) 14:09, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Is the validity of an image overridden by how many pages the file is in use? VihirLak007 (talk) 18:31, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@VihirLak007: More or less, yes. In brief, if an image is used, it can only be deleted if it is a copyright violation. Yann (talk) 18:50, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Noted. Thanks VihirLak007 (talk) 18:52, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Request to Remove Personal Information from File History

Hello,

I’m a newbie here. I am the creator of File:Nazan_Şoray.jpg and would like some help deleting the personal information (name and username) stored in the file history comments. Could you please assist me with this?

Previously, I requested deletion of this file to get rid of the file history (I am OK with keeping the file, but not the history), but my requests were rejected. Should I request a revision deletion instead?

Thank you very much in advance! Osx (talk) 23:55, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Osx: I have hidden your name from the upload history. Is it OK like this? Yann (talk) 14:42, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, that is OK. Thank you very much! Osx (talk) 15:23, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Re: YesAutosign

Hi, SignBot need a __NEWSECTIONLINK__ magic word to work if target page is not a talk page. I've added that to COM:UDR and it should work now. Stang★ 00:33, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Stang: Great! Thanks, Yann (talk) 14:42, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

reː apparently wiki thinks i'm uploading non-copyrighted images...

There's a misunderstanding. All those images i uploaded are not violations. I've already emailed the permissions at wiki commons to straighten it out. i'm here to make wiki better so uploading a non-copyrighted work would be nonsensical. i've gotten executor of wills and family who are owners of the work of all those photos to email them and straighten it out Gregorcollins (talk) 23:26, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Gregorcollins: Hi, OK, but you need to write better sources, authors, etc., and if you are not the author, we need evidence that the pictures are in the public domain. Thanks, Yann (talk) 08:03, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not saying my library of images - which many are just sitting there not being used - is perfect, BUT, the pictures in question - the 80 year old ones attributed to Maria Altmann and her family (Adele Bloch-Bauer etc) are indeed owned by the owners who have emailed Wiki commons. Again, I'm not trying to ruffle feathers here but I will be more cognizant in uploading pics now Gregorcollins (talk) 11:45, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Reviewing all your files, it is clear that you copied images from the Internet, and wrongly attributed authors to you. Do not do that again, or you will be blocked. Yann (talk) 10:02, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Re: User talk:Hurricane Clyde

I am asking; since you warned me not to ping you and also condemned my practice of pinging other administrators. What should I do when I suspect that a file that has already been DRed meets the criteria for speedy deletion?

I had been pinging administrators because I was trying to run it through the proper channels to the best of my ability. I felt in my opinion it was better for me to be rebuked in the discussion and be told it didn’t meet speedy criteria there; than to unilaterally put a tag on it and it be reverted and me possibly get a warning template and/of block over it.

Please reply to this on my talk page. Thank you. Hurricane Clyde 🌀my talk page! 17:56, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

copyvio

Hi.. It seems that User:AWAW0262 has continued to upload copyrighted images despite your last warning on his talk page. Could you please look into this issue? Thank you. Ckfasdf (talk) 22:37, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

✓ Done Blocked, copyvios deleted. @Ckfasdf: Please inform the uploader when you tag files. Thanks, Yann (talk) 08:40, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
OK, will do. I have a question, I initially submitted a DR because I was unsure of the file's origin. However, now that I have found the source, should I apply for a speedy deletion under {{Copyvio}}, or is it better to wait for the deletion request to be resolved. Ckfasdf (talk) 10:58, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I also searched for the source. Thanks for finding it. Deleted. Yann (talk) 11:26, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

DRs

Hello Yann, I wanted to ask you, after seeing your messages on Hurricane Clyde's page, should I strike out/remove my comments on discussions on where I was pinged, and does that constitute canvassing/canvassed votes? If so, I can strike out or remove the comments that I have made on them and refrain from commenting on further discussions where I'm pinged, and have advised him to refrain from pinging me on other discussions until I hear from you. I do apologize if I have violated any policies in doing this, and thank you. ChrisWx ☁️ (talk - contribs) 23:19, 13 September 2024 (UTC) (edited 23:28, 13 September 2024 (UTC))[reply]

  • Honestly I’m going to ask the same question. I would like some clarification as to what the canvassing policy actually means. Because I was accused recently by ChessEric on it. And I’m not upset at @ChrisWx for coming to you; I’m not going to defend myself. I just want clarification as to what the proper way is to facilitate discussions if this isn’t it. And I want that clarification that way I don’t make the same (or similar) mistake again.
  • I will add that my intent was to quickly facilitate a discussion. I’ll add that my pings are to people that I know for a fact have differing opinions. So I want to clarify that if I was indeed canvassing; I wasn’t knowingly or intentionally doing so.
  • Please post a copy of your reply to my talk page that way I can have it for future reference. And I want to say that if I did violate any policies; I am sorry, I didn’t mean to, and I will try my best not to do it again.
Hurricane Clyde 🌀my talk page! 23:34, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

File:(SGP-Singapore) Showcar Toyota Crown Sport Z No-plate rear 2024-09-14.jpg

Can you please explain why did you revert the CSD F7 in the above file? At least provide a reason for that instead of not saying anything. I'm the uploader and it's quite clearly a broken file. S5A-0043Talk 09:03, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@S5A-0043: Hi, Sorry but it is not broken for me. It looks perfectly OK. Are you sure it is not a cache issue? Yann (talk) 16:03, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Funny. I cleared my cache 10 times and this is what it shows: [1]. Anyways, if it isn't broken for you, please just consider this as a G7 request since it's only been 2 days after upload. S5A-0043Talk 23:01, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Question

Hello, File:Pseudohedron with no vertex visible from center1396@.jpg, which you deleted as copyvio, has been reploaded as File:Sajidul@d10.jpg. I just wondered what made you think it was a copyvio? To me it seems like own work and qualifies for {{User page image}}, unless w:User:Mdsajidulislamd were to be deleted. Jonteemil (talk) 16:13, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Well, it is not a selfie, so formally we need the photographer's permission. But I redeleted it as per COM:WEBHOST, and blocked the uploader for a week: no useful edit anywhere, except self-promotion. Yann (talk) 16:20, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, thank you. Jonteemil (talk) 20:07, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Letter from Selena at the Village Pump

Hi Yann, I hope you're fine. Since you're an active admin and editor here, I wanted to flag a potentially interesting discussion at the Village Pump, started by Selena Deckelmann about finding a better way of supporting Commons. Maybe you can consider, if you have time, to share your thoughts? Thanks in advance! Sannita (WMF) (talk) 14:22, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

CC BY

Perhaps I missed it but I don’t remember CC BY being one of the options when I uploaded from One World In Data Chidgk1 (talk) 14:56, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Chidgk1: Hi, Then you have to edit the license manually. I did it for you this time. Also the author is not unknown. "One World in Data" is the author. Yann (talk) 15:16, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Removal of File:FiskShoeRepair.jpg

Why was this picture deleted from the system. I had the picture in my files for many years. (I only kept it for reference purposes.) A copy of a copy; hence, the quality wasn't even that great. I uploaded it from my home scanner to my computer. Nonetheless, it is likely the only picture of the advertising item that exists, and can't be replaced. A tiny spec of history will be lost. JimPercy (talk) 16:54, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@JimPercy: OK. In fact this doesn't really meet the speedy deletion criteria, so I restored it, and created a regular DR instead. If you are the photographer, it should be OK, but this is not clear in the description. Otherwise... Yann (talk) 17:24, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Removal of File:FiskAshtray.jpg

I'd also like to dispute this picture being deleted from the system. I no longer had the original item, but a picture of it was saved in one of my folders. I then, after some time, scanned it to my computer and uploaded it to Commons. It's an important picture to back up a key credit by the artist Paul Martin (1883–1932). I wrote most of the Wikipedia article on him.

A Wikipedia editor put these exact words in the description or permission box of a very similar upload of mine, featuring the exact same character: "This image has not been used in advertisements since 1935. Its copyright was not renewed in the then-required 28th year, in order to be granted an extension and avoid falling into the public domain. It was confirmed by searching the copyright records from 1957 to 59. This image is also not listed in the trademark database." So that was verified by a WP editor (not myself). It took me some time to upload the picture of that ashtray and describe it properly, and I just would at least prefer it receive a regular DR instead. No warning was given. I even uploaded many years ago (as recalled). Thanks. JimPercy (talk) 05:25, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@JimPercy: OK, please see Commons:Deletion requests/File:FiskAshtray.jpg. This is not a 2D item, so the photographer has a copyright. Yann (talk) 10:36, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Rename file

Please rename https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Typhlocybinae_P9120401.jpg to https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Arboridia pusilla_(Ribaut 1936)_♀.jpg Elena Regina (talk) 17:21, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Elena Regina: Please use {{Rename}}. Yann (talk) 17:26, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Commons:Deletion requests/File:Tamannaah Bhatia in Bhadra Nalika Lehenga.jpg

Hello Yann, I hope you're doing well. Would you mind closing the DR. Thanks for your consideration. C1K98V (💬 ✒️ 📂) 10:38, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

✓ Done Deleted. Yann (talk) 14:54, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

File:Jan de wilde - Fanfare van Honger en dorst.webm

Please, can you put this back. I mad it myself so no copyright vio. Greetings. Vdkdaan (talk) 17:24, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

And free of use for everybody if they use the same therems of use (also free)Vdkdaan (talk) 17:26, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Vdkdaan: You didn't provide a license, and this may be a derivative work of the performance. Yann (talk) 17:39, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I can provid the license. I mad it mayself. I can only put it when it is back on wikimedia. So iu repaet my qution. Can you put it back please so i can put the licens. Vdkdaan (talk) 07:02, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Vdkdaan: Please read what I wrote above, and COM:DW. I won't restore this. You can ask on COM:UDR, but I doubt it will be restored. Yann (talk) 07:07, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Yann: , ok i read it. I understand now. I tought if i made the video it can put it here. No problems. Thanks for the effort and time. Vdkdaan (talk) 08:57, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

File:Grote beer 3D.webm

Same for this one. Vdkdaan (talk) 17:30, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Vdkdaan: Here also, you didn't provide a license. Yann (talk) 17:39, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Vdkdaan: OK done here. Yann (talk) 07:05, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thx, Vdkdaan (talk) 08:57, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Tools for closing deletion discussions?

Hey, saw that you did a lot of the deletions on commons, and I am wondering what you workflow is. I am trying to learn more as I apply for Adminiship, Sadads (talk) 21:34, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Sadads: Hi, I start from the backlog, and I mostly delete speedy deletion requests, selfies, and copyright violations. I also regularly tag and delete Media uploaded without a license, which are mostly copyright violations. Regards, Yann (talk) 21:56, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! I also just found Help:Gadget-DelReqHandler -- I am kindof suprised its not available to other trusted users who could close or relist requests, Sadads (talk) 22:11, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

About File:里湯昔話 雄山荘.jpg

Hello, I am having trouble with the File:里湯昔話 雄山荘.jpg file, which has been deleted repeatedly. This image is on our computer and we created it (Yuzanso). We have looked at the license page but cannot figure out what exactly we are supposed to do. Please tell us how to upload the image in a way that is easy to understand. 佐藤３５ (talk) 00:13, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@佐藤３５: Hi, Being in your computer doesn't give the copyright to you. It seems to have been copied from the Internet, so who is the photographer? Yann (talk) 06:07, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reverting

I just reviewed and found that some of the user's edits you just reverted is not a vandalism so I restored some of it. But all other edits of this user does. Anyways thanks for your cooperation -- Nvdtn19 (talk) 14:03, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ah yes thanks. I reverted everything, not knowing if they were OK or not. Yann (talk) 14:09, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reverted edits by Bấy bi cute (talk) to last revision by Cherry Cotton Candy (on UnDR)

Good morning (here) Yann: Why did you do this? It seems to me that the request by Bấy bi cute, while problematic, should stand. I don't see why we should accept its deletion by Cherry Cotton Candy, who is a new user whose only action is the deletion. .     Jim . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 14:18, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Or maybe you actually restored the original request but confused me with your explanation? .     Jim . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 14:23, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Jameslwoodward: Hi Jim, Actually I restored the request added by Băng Tỏa and removed by Bấy bi cute. It seems clear to me that Bấy bi cute is a VOA, probably a sock. Yann (talk) 14:44, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Commons:Deletion requests/File:Pétain - portrait photographique.jpg

Now, I don't know about how closing practices on commons differ from those on enwiki, but this smells like a supervote to me. Would you consider re-opening? Cremastra (talk) 17:25, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Cremastra: Opinions in deletion requests are not votes. There has been an extensive discussion on COM:VPC about this, and there is no doubt that this is in the public domain, both in France and in USA. Yann (talk) 17:38, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Notification about possible deletion

Some contents have been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether they should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at their entry.

If you created these pages, please note that the fact that they have been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with them, such as a copyright issue. Please see Commons:But it's my own work! for a guide on how to address these issues.

Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!
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Affected:

w:File:C.I.D. (1956).webm

w:File:Madhumati (1958) poster.jpg

Yours sincerely, GaiusAugustine (talk) 18:35, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Commons:Administrators' noticeboard/User problems#Commons:Administrators' noticeboard/Blocks and protections/Archive 39#User:Khiao do

@Yann:Hi,Regarding the too simple in Venezuela my answer: it does not say clearly in the COM:Venezuela but Bedivere is right in this DR there are complex logos than simple ones, in some cases it is necessary to add PD-textlogo but can publish complex logos rather than simple ones if they were created by public sectors ({{PD-VenezuelaGov}}) (Google translator) AbchyZa22 (talk) 22:01, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I see that you deleted several gallery pages with template {{SD|GA1}} and more than one image (2-6), that were nominated for deletion by Adamant1. Is there no check before an administrator deletes a gallery page whether the template has been used properly? I thought this template is only for gallery pages with zero or one image. Is that not true? Can the template also be used for other numbers of images? It is at least about:

JopkeB (talk) 04:12, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not to highjack the discussion, but @JopkeB: Is there a reason your not willing to take it to requests for undeletion like @Alachuckthebuck: suggested on the ANU board? That seems like the more appropriate venue. Really to repeat what they said, this really just comes off like IDONTLIKEIT. You filed opened two ANU requests, both of which didn't seem go anywhere except for multiple people essentially telling you it's not an issue. So now your lobbying individual admins. Your clearly refusing to listen. Regardless, why not do this through a requests for undeletion like everyone else? I'm more then willing to lay my case out in an undeletion request about why I don't think the galleries are useful. Your kind of getting in the way of that or there being a consensus about it one or another by not going through the proper channels though. I'm certainly willing to not nominate galleries with multiple images for deletion again if there's a consensus that there should be a hard and fast rule on it. From what I've seen your the only one who has that opinion and at least IMO there's no point in restoring the galleries if nominating them for deletion isn't actually an issue. --Adamant1 (talk) 04:40, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@JopkeB, You are talking your way into a 1-way IBAN. I'm not trying to threaten you, but that is where this is going. You might want to read the harassment policy, if you haven't already. @Adamant1 and myself both said these claims will be heard and addressed with civility and in good faith at requests for undeletion. Considering this is your 3rd post (and second noticeboard) about this one incident, this might my your last chance to drop the stick without sanctions. No one is out to get you, and we know we aren't perfect, but there is the right place to ask for a mistake to be fixed, and a lot of wrong places. Admin's talk pages are the worst place to complain about an editor. All the Best -- Chuck Talk 04:52, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  1. This post is not about a complaint about Adamant1, but about how administrators handle speedy deletions that perhaps should have been deletions requests.
  2. And if it was: the first line in Commons:Undeletion_requests#Appealing_a_deletion is that you may discuss the deletion with the administrator who deleted the pages. So what is wrong with this post?
JopkeB (talk) 05:20, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I think if multiple people asks someone several times to do it through an undeletion request then probably they should do it that way regardless of what the page says. Otherwise its just Wikilawyer. BTW, as I mentioned to JopkeB on her talk page there's multiple reasons to think the galleries were created as part of a paid editing campaign around roses. Assuming I'm correct then I think its worth deleting the galleries anyway regardless of how many images they have. Although I'm not advocating for just deleting all of them, but the ones with only a few images and mainly, if not exclusively, serve as promotional spam should be. --Adamant1 (talk) 07:42, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@JopkeB, Alachuckthebuck, and Adamant1: Did you get an agreement about these pages in one way, or another? Yann (talk) 22:17, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It seems like the single image galleries are fine to delete. It's still up in the air about the multiple image ones with images of the children though. So you might want to hold of on those for now until a DR having to do with them is finished. I think everyone agrees that single image galleries can be speedy deleted though. I'm not sure how that relates to the galleries JopkeB wants you to restore since I don't remember how many images they had or what the circumstances were. But you can probably at least deal with the back log in the meantime. --Adamant1 (talk) 00:24, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Yann I wasn't involved in the content dispute, but my take is that whatver @JopkeB was appealing, should go into a requests for undeletion, and everything else stands as is, DR pending. @Adamant1 , please let me know if I'm missing somthing. All the Best -- Chuck Talk 00:54, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@JopkeB and Adamant1: Then please remove the SD tag when it is not warranted, and tell me when it is done. It is very cumbersome to check hundreds of pages. Yann (talk) 09:49, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I was planning on doing it. I just haven't been around my computer. I'll let you know when I'm done though. --Adamant1 (talk) 10:16, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Alright. I went through them and I think it's just single image galleries now. --Adamant1 (talk) 12:52, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

As for ANV request

Hi Yann,

You know, I would rather assume that these actions were taken by another user (I won't make any guesses since the city of the IP address don't match the one I thought it was). User:TolyastarRUSSIAz is hardly experienced enough to make COM:AN requests. If you know more than me, just ignore my opinion. Thanks! Quick1984 (talk) 19:36, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

3 day block of the IP in this case is fine by me. Abzeronow (talk) 19:41, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
What bothers me is that [2] was probably said to the wrong person. Quick1984 (talk) 19:43, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
OK, I reverted that. Yann (talk) 21:16, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wikisource

When I changed https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/New_York_Tribune/1869/A_Lottery_Case the name of the file, it looks like it wasn't replaced automatically at Wikisource. Can you see if it is replaced when you look at it, so I can see if a problem with the move function or with my cache. Thanks. RAN (talk) 23:47, 24 September 2024 (UTC) I added in the new file name it is missing in several browsers, but you can see it did not replace properly: https://en.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=New_York_Tribune/1869/A_Lottery_Case&oldid=13365643 --RAN (talk) 23:53, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Undeletion requests

Hi Yann,

You have sent me a warning w.r.t copyright violations, however I have uploaded majority of photos that are owned by me. The rest were publicly available to which I responded to the editors. Since they have refused, I now only upload those pieces of work owned by me. I have also sent an email to permissions wiki permissions-commons@wikimedia.org w.r.t the relevant photos which I have released permission to wikipedia. It would be unfortunate for me to be put on the watchlist and blocked for donating items from my family library for usage. Please rectify the same. ChangeDavid (talk) 10:19, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@ChangeDavid: "Owned by you" and "publicly available" do not make you the copyright owner, who is usually the photographer. Please read COM:L and COM:DW. Thanks, Yann (talk) 10:35, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Yann,
I understood and are not uploading any publicly available items anymore. However w.r.t Dr Jaime Valfredo Rangel, I have given the email confirmation to Wikipedia. This was published through his publishing Tipografia Rangel prior to his death where he was the copyright owner. He passed away in 1959. While his possessions are transferred, the copyright effectively becomes of free use. Therefore I continue to upload documents of his. Trust this confirms the matters and these ones can be corrected. You may check for emails from davidspinto@gmail.com ChangeDavid (talk) 12:40, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
To clarify, the publishing and documentation is transferred to me and I have provided a legal confirmation for the same to Wikipedia ChangeDavid (talk) 12:41, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
In addition to the above, I am willing to give confirmation in whatever way required that no copyright impediments will be there, and I have liability for the same. ChangeDavid (talk) 12:55, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Could you look at this file again?

Commons:Deletion requests/File:Donald Trump cutout (53932101541).jpg - Here is a second Deletion Request on this same file. In my original DR regarding this file I wrote, "likely copyrighted photograph from unknown photographer." I failed to note that my DR comment was related to the cutout image within the photograph itself. This file should have been deleted under COM:DW and COM:PCP. Thank you for your continuing good works, -- Ooligan (talk) 15:37, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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